Hello folks,

This post is partly in response to an earlier post encouraging discussion on how we’re using KGTD (instead of a technical support question). I’ve had an opportunity to play with this file for about 10 days now, and I have to say it’s been a very good - and eye opening - experience.

First, I’ve taken some liberties with a few GTD (and KGTD) conventions in order to suit my personal tastes, so my useage may differ from your preferences..

For the top tier of the Projects section, instead of listing projects, I’ve made “superheadings” consisting of life areas, i.e. “Home Projects”, “Finance”, “Career Development”, “Recreation-Travel”, “Fitness and Health”, etc. Actual Projects and subprojects are listed within these larger headings. That way when I review and tweak projects I can call up every project within a certain area of my life instead of having a *huge* top tier filled with dozens of projects.

Secondly, when I migrated my original Projects lists from a generic OO3 file into the KGTD format I immediately noticed that I had lots of ambiguity in my project lists - tasks masquerading as projects and vice versa, lots of projects with no actions, etc. KGTD forced me to review these projects and think about actions and contexts in a more dogmatic GTD way. I didn’t realize I was being that loose with the system! Thanks Ethan - your setup has a built-in way of counteracting poor implementation of GTD.

That said, once I finished assigning contexts and actions to every project and subproject, I was left with a much larger, almost depressing amount of actions. This was troublesome as I have a tendency to procrastinate and enormous actions lists don’t help. Plus, I don’t think that a vast “Actions” section is congruent with GTD dogma. I’m more interested in “Next Actions” and I think there is a big distinction. So I took a cue from a previous poster who started removing contexts from his actions in order to gray them out. This works very well! These gray items are future next actions - not someday/maybe - but rather *future definite*. I only assigned contexts to those actions that I determine are truly Next Actions. I believe this is closer to the spirit of Allen’s book, and for me I now have a much smaller, manageable list of actions to work from each day. Then I can go back and review my project lists and assign contexts to grayed-out actions as desired.

Third, I’m going against the grain a bit by purposely allowing “singletons” - single actions that don’t require projects - into this system. I ended up with about 20 “singletons” - single actions that don’t require projects. These are listed under a Project entitled “Everything else”. These include mundane tasks like errands and even a subproject called “Fix Computer”, which is a one-time (hopefully) project that doesn’t fit neatly under my “life areas” headings.

Forth, I removed all the Review lists from the KGTD file and merged them into a OO3 Review outline I maintain seperately. I do this in order to keep the KGTD file size manageable and also so I can have my Review file side-by-side with my KGTD file on the computer screen as I go through the review process.

Last, I set up a seperate KGTD file just for work. I work in the entertainment industry, and the shows I work on have vast amounts of projects and subprojects. It’s easier and safer for me to maintain these seperately and not mix up my personal life or career development projects with my current show.

Both my personal and work files sync with iCal just fine, so long as the calendar names in iCal don’t have overlapping names. For instance, I have a Calendar (aka context) in iCal called @Calls, for non-work calls. For work-related calls, this calendar is named @Prd:Calls. ‘Prd’ stands for ‘Production’.

All in all, KGTD is in my opinion an amazing implementation of GTD, though there are some minor philosophical differences in both Ethan’s and my own interpretation of GTD as I see it. But these aren’t show-stoppers. On the contrary, the system is flexible enough to tweak a little to personal taste.

Thanks Ethan, this really rocks!

- Randy Kirk

thanks, and more of the same please!

Helpful and illustrative points.
Help me see how I could use kGTD better. I too was annoyed by the size of the project list but was worried to make all projects sub-projects of areas, as I did not know (not experimented, and not willing to screw my file up, and not finding time to fiddle!) how kGTD would handle it.
I do also have a “one-off tasks” list of singletons.
I find interesting the approach of not assigning contexts to tasks you don’t want polluting your landscape yet.
But that will force you to really review all projects regularly, while I tend to think of kGTD as a fire-and-forget trustable system. That is, log, classify, “actionize” items, and let them come back to you.
But, alas, the long list of items/ tasks in @work is becoming a bit hard to read and action.
So hopefully using kGTD will (surely) gove me more time to …. better organise myself, and I should have time for reviewing the innards of projects.

Ah, but keeping "not yet

Ah, but keeping “not yet next actions” without contexts forces you to do the DA weekly review, right?

re: grayed out actions

I’m not sure if this question was directed at me or the most recent prior post, but yes, one must be consistent with the review process if allowing for grayed-out ‘not yet next actions’. I review many of my projects almost daily anyway, so a forced weekly review isn’t a problem for me.

- Randy

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Liz's picture

I've mentioned this in

I’ve mentioned this in passing before, but I find it *very* helpful to keep my KGTD file open all the time. I’ve tweaked the column widths a bit so it takes up a,little less screen space, but I’m treating it like my Dock and Konfabulator widgets — always staring me in the face.

I find this makes it impossible to ignore. I tend to forget about things I have filed away. I’ve tried other organizing systems and, except for my Palm Pilot (which screams at me, because I make heavy use of alarms), everything else is forgotten once I put it away.

I also only assign contexts to things I’m ready to work on. I may flesh out an entire project, but only add contexts to the things I am ready to work with.

And Randy, you’re not alone on the meta-projects … My top level projects include housework (the project that lasts a lifetime), each of my kids, an ongoing shopping list, etc.

-Liz

rlbarbour's picture

Your idea of making the top

Your idea of making the top level projects “life areas” gave me an idea. Followers of Covey’s “Seven Habits” might want to make their top level projects their “roles”. e.g. husband, father, IT Manager, Production Manager, Sunday School Teacher, student, etc. I might give this a try.

top level projects

I’m not familiar with Covey’s ideas, but I had just thought of trying something similar yesterday: naming the project areas after things I ASPIRE TO BE: “caring parent,” “accomplished architect,” “devoted Buddhist,” etc.

I would like to do the

I would like to do the super-project thing with “life area” major project headings but I don’t like the way you get an ellipsis (…) before sub-projects in the projects list. Is there a way to modify that?

Never-mind, just needed to

Never-mind, just needed to try out kGTD more. now I like the ellipsis :)

Kudos Randy

I love the way you implemented GTD, I love it.. i think it is very onpoint and it answers alot of issues i have been having with..
especially with dealing with truly known actions.. but not wanting them to go in the some day maybe section, brilliant..

and so was reorganizing project by roles or more accurately different areas of your life.

Best of Luck and thank you for a wonderful post.

Dwayne Neckles

regarding Ical Randy

Randy,

Is it possible to create actual calendar items in KGTD .. or is it just the tasks that you are supposed to sync with Ical?

THanks in advance,

Dwayne

Kaleo's picture

Randy, Can you

Randy,

Can you explain/show how you created the separate Review list?

TIA


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